> But so far, officials said, investigations involving the United States and a half-dozen European security services have turned up no indication that commercial ships suspected of dragging anchors across seabed systems did so intentionally or at the direction of Moscow.
> Instead, U.S. and European officials said that the evidence gathered to date — including intercepted communications and other classified intelligence — points to accidents caused by inexperienced crews serving aboard poorly maintained vessels.
So they did do it, we just haven't found concrete evidence of commands being given from putin, yet. Regardless. Whatever the reason is all russian vessels should be blocked from sailing if they are so incompetent and reckless.
Not surprising - this is as I fully expected. Got down-voted to oblivion when I suggested the formal story would change in a month - as it now has. It will likely change even more in a couple of months when more details come to light.
We already saw how all this played out with Nordstream reporting - with American media fully blaming Russia and hysterical American HN readers calling for a nuclear response against Moscow. All for a NATO sabotage operation carrying out the threat promised on TV by President Biden. Fully detailed by Seymour Hersh.
Of course you would expect this, considering your comment history is full of defending Putin's actions.
In real world however, Finnish officials still see sabotage as the most likely cause of these "accidents". Poorly staffed and maintained Russian ships have been sailing the Baltic for a long time, why would they only start breaking cables now?
All this proves is that Washington Post can't be trusted, and is likely compromised by Russia like the US government.
> All this proves is that Washington Post can't be trusted, and is likely compromised by Russia like the US government.
This statement utterly boggles one's mind. I am amazed at the levels of delusion required to imagine that a paper that has been rah-rah Ukraine for the last 3 years is now suddenly compromised by the Russian government, because it published an article that challenged one's beliefs.
You conveniently never addressed the Nordstream sabotage where Russia was fully assigned the blame by the American media until investigators actually did the job of investigation. The truth was too inconvenient for some - with the Polish PM even explicitly calling for burying the investigation.
> But so far, officials said, investigations involving the United States and a half-dozen European security services have turned up no indication that commercial ships suspected of dragging anchors across seabed systems did so intentionally or at the direction of Moscow.
> Instead, U.S. and European officials said that the evidence gathered to date — including intercepted communications and other classified intelligence — points to accidents caused by inexperienced crews serving aboard poorly maintained vessels.
So they did do it, we just haven't found concrete evidence of commands being given from putin, yet. Regardless. Whatever the reason is all russian vessels should be blocked from sailing if they are so incompetent and reckless.
Not surprising - this is as I fully expected. Got down-voted to oblivion when I suggested the formal story would change in a month - as it now has. It will likely change even more in a couple of months when more details come to light.
We already saw how all this played out with Nordstream reporting - with American media fully blaming Russia and hysterical American HN readers calling for a nuclear response against Moscow. All for a NATO sabotage operation carrying out the threat promised on TV by President Biden. Fully detailed by Seymour Hersh.
Of course you would expect this, considering your comment history is full of defending Putin's actions.
In real world however, Finnish officials still see sabotage as the most likely cause of these "accidents". Poorly staffed and maintained Russian ships have been sailing the Baltic for a long time, why would they only start breaking cables now?
All this proves is that Washington Post can't be trusted, and is likely compromised by Russia like the US government.
> All this proves is that Washington Post can't be trusted, and is likely compromised by Russia like the US government.
This statement utterly boggles one's mind. I am amazed at the levels of delusion required to imagine that a paper that has been rah-rah Ukraine for the last 3 years is now suddenly compromised by the Russian government, because it published an article that challenged one's beliefs.
You conveniently never addressed the Nordstream sabotage where Russia was fully assigned the blame by the American media until investigators actually did the job of investigation. The truth was too inconvenient for some - with the Polish PM even explicitly calling for burying the investigation.
yeaaahhh, not so fast:
https://bsky.app/profile/auonsson.bsky.social/post/3lg4nutmt...